Yeah! I thank you bored-san for your previous post about the Edge manga ^^ (I
love this manga though I haven't read them all but I knew that there's no Meyrin
both in Athrun's escape and when they met Meer at Copernicus hahaha)..Actually I
think the people who loves Athrun and Meyrin pairings basically they didn't like
Cagalli since SEED that's why they make this Asu-Mey pairings although there's
nothing romantic scene between Athrun and Meyrin, no at all! not even in
GSD..Don't be mad, that's what I think..
@MiyuCagalli : Yeah, you can join us at the group which bored-san told about
^__^
Yeah! Agree with you Raidow about Shinn and Lunamaria relationship! I'm not
against their relationship but I need to see something, the flow of how Luna can
love Shinn after Shinn supposed have killed her little sister? I think may be
Luna must hate Shinn at first since he is the killer of Meyrin! Then whatever,
the creator should add more scene to unite Shinn and Lunamaria, right? It's just
too fast for both of them T__T
About Kira-Lacus thing, yeah..no comment for this couple hahahha...I support
them too ^^
About Athrun-Cagalli, yep! If they want to end their romance relationship,
please make the scene more natural and logic..Make the flow such as at SEED
which everything between them begun ^__^ but still hoping that Athrun and
Cagalli can be a couple again ^^ (Love them very much ne~)
Too many people said that Cagalli was not a good pilot right? Then Lunamaria was
even worse than Cagalli ^^
Fukuda should make her stronger since she's wearing a red uniform.
You know when Djibril launched to Moon from Orb, Luna couldn't hit the Seiran's
shuttle even once while the shuttle just flied straight..Yare2 desu
ne~?
The story was too fast ^^ That which made Destiny much worse than SEED in story
I think..
About Athrun said that Lacus's assassination could've been attempted by
individuals who had no relation to the chairman..How can he said that? The only
one who knew that Meer is a fake was Gilbert and his man (and Athrun himself of
course)..It proved enough to me that Lacus's assassination was planned by
Gilbert himself, don't you agree?
Next, Athrun promised to find out about Lacus's assassination but he never tried
to do that! Yare2 Athrun-san -__-'
Quote by MargaletNot to be offtopic,
I'll add one more comment. You mentioned that moment when Shinn took Stellar
back to Neo. It's a real epic because, ok, let's say he thought he was doing the
best thing for her, since she would have probably died otherwise. But then when
Stellar returned to the battlefield and started wiping out whole cities with
that machine (like wth?! but that's the Gundam style, so let it go ) and
Kira killed her because there was no other way of stopping her slaughter those
thousands of innocent people... Well, that's Shinn's moment to shine: he blamed
Kira for her death and decided to kill him (madman mode, you remember) but he
didn't stop to think not even for a second that it was actually his fault for
taking her back Shinn
is a such a smart boy and that's one of the awesome moments that makes GSD such
a frustrating series
Yeah, I didn't get it! I can't understand why people really against AA and
Freedom ne~?
Shinn Asuka, angry and hate Cagalli, saying "Athha killed my family".
Then he hate Orb because of it. Want to burn it down with his own hands just
because of that? He lived in Orb like a normal family, smiling, laughing with
his family ON ORB, how can he never remember the good part that Orb ever gave
him?He did lose his family and he can blame Athha but how could he hate Orb that
much and even tried to burnt down that nation? Orb had its citizen whom probably
had the same destiny like his, why he never even thinking that way? He tried to
kill Cagalli that's fine with me since he hates Cagalli so much but when he
wanted so bad to destroy Orb, I hate him a lot, thinking that only himself who
suffer because of the war..
Then he acted like spoiled brat. He did what he likes, give Stellar back to the
enemy and the stupid thing is he believed in Neo (HIS ENEMY/EAF) that Stellar
would never go to fight again. HE BELIEVED IN HIM, HECK he knew Neo was an
enemy! And when Stellar piloted Destroyer, she burnt down 3 cities and killed so
many innocent people but he hated Kira more just because he destroyed the
Destroyer. He even tried to take revenge on Stellar's death. I would say that
Stellar didn't die because Kira killed her, if Kira was the one who killed her,
how can Stellar's body is perfectly fine? 2 hands and 2 legs?
I think Stellar died because her medicine was out, hm know what I mean?
Kira just saved hundreds or may be thousands people in those cities...AND THEY
ARE ALL CORDINATORS! How can the citizen didn't do anything when Gilbert start
chasing AA? Blame Orb etc? How can the people of ZAFT didn't have a thought when
they start attacking AA (ArchAngel)? I need to see some protest from ZAFT to
their leader since they knew the one that saved those cities were AA and
Freedom, right? I mean, why nobody can say something like this "why we
should attack AA? They saved us right?" Yeah, I mean why Coordinator that
supposed to be smarter couldn't think straight? Why they couldn't blame Shinn?
He's the one that release the enemy right? Talia knew it! She's the captain but
didn't have authority ne~, Shinn was is Minerva after all -__-'
Too bad, I think Murrue is smarter than her hahahaha.....Talia was always
controlled by Gilbert (like there was no other warship hahahha)..Every mission
was on Minerva's shoulder ^^
Well, Gilbert was smart enough to always control Minerva and Shinn too
hahahaha...He used them since he knew that he couldn't use Yzak and Dearka to
carry on his ambitions ^^ (Gil has wasted their capability and skill ne~)
Hahahha..I actually enjoyed the beginning of GSD but then keep getting low or
should I say suckier hahahaha, nothing interested as the story flows......and
worst ending! Yup, I agree to that, it's not only about Athrun and Cagalli
relationship but still many holes that need explanation for us who've watched
SEED! And yup, too many new characters but not really useful! Nobody in Minerva
want to act to protest Shinn since he disobey their rules! I hate a leader such
as Gilbert, seems nice with evil plan! True, Yzak and Dearka was wasted in GSD,
they have great skill and they are an ace too, especially Yzak Jule, right? He
killed two extended in SEED last battle! Hm, Heine was slashed not by Kira but
by Stellar ne~? He was between Kira and Stellar so Stellar killed him
New losers? Yeah, so much of them such as Djibril and Yuna with his father
(Unato Ema) and the Orb's elder (nice to know that they died together hahaha and
Yuna got killed by defeated Gouff if I'm not mistaken hahahaha....stupid death)
and don't forget there are also stupid big MS, Gundam Destroyer which really
easy to slash T__T
Then about Meyrin saved Athrun's life! She did that secretly, and unfortunately
Rey saw them and that's made Athrun no other option except brought her with him.
I think, if Rey didn't see them, Athrun would not bring her with him because
there's no danger for Meyrin if she stayed in Minerva. I mean, even when finally
ZAFT knew that she was the one who helped Athrun, there were so many people can
defend her action by saying "may be Athrun put a gun on her throat so
Meyrin had to do this", nobody knew what really happened. Too bad, Rey saw
them and he saw that Meyrin helped Athrun with her will, not by force so that's
the bad news.You saw it too right, so many people can defend her action such as
Lunamaria, Talia, Vino etc IF Rey didn't see them! Look at what happen with
Shinn after he release Stellar from Minerva?
Here's mine
toumarie
You are idealistic and have a keen intellect and imagination. Philosophical with
a gentle, romantic and giving nature your desire is to help others and benefit
mankind. You attract many friends and are loved by all for your nurturing and
understanding ways. Once a project has been started your determination and focus
always ensures that it is completed. You exude peace and contentment and bring
this into your environment and associations
Here's the link to the original arts... http://andante.gonna.jp/index3/aoi.html
made by Aoi Hibiki...
Hmph! I told you before in my previous post!
Try to look in his gallery!
Hello there,
I wanna to help and I do hope I can help with my bad english but I pray to God
that you'll understand what I wrote...
I think I kinda understand...First of all, A was and maybe is a black sheep in
your family...What would you do if you were A back then? Can you understand what
I mean?
When he quarrels with other member, is he the only one who was always to be
blame? Did you know the real reason why they're fighting?I think you didn't know
the real reason of it. You guys in the family always talk about that the elder
should back down! You jugde him without knowing why. You guys only know how to
blame him. So when B or C or D have a quarrel, he just copied what you all said,
he just copied what you guys did to him!
Quote by deathknelldI disagree GSD
was the BOMB! few things I didn't expect from fans reactio(asucga fans).
1.snice when the smile mean you romaticlly inlove with someone.
2. Snice when did the Uniform you wear in Anime dcicde who your favorite
character in hooked with.
1. Agree! So Athrun did not have any romantic relationship with other girls
beside Cagalli! He never kissed them!
2. Ok, I can accept it....Just see the movie then...
I actually wanna believe that Cagalli and Athrun can become a couple again since
so many arts and piccies in the magazine shows that they almost always drawn
together with other pairings...
I love to see Asucaga be together again...I do hope really that in this movie
there willl be more scene between Athrun and Cagalli...but if the director wants
to separate them..I have to accept it but I'd be sad T__T
For the best Gundams and MS I can agree that they are cooler in Destiny than in
SEED but still the story is much better in Seed than Destiny...Now I think I can
say that Destiny would be better if it has another phase so that the holes in
SEED can be fill in Destiny instead of making another holes..Hm, holes is mean
something weird and need explanation....I hope you understand what I meant...
Plus may be more character will have their own roles not just like Vino or
Youlan ^^
the story goes too fast ^__^ as if like was hunted by time, episodes etc
@BlackSun : Yeah, I agree with you, if Coordinators are more capable of anything
than Natural, they shouldn't have a hard time to wipe a bunch of armies of
Natural ^__^
but a SEED mode is not everyone can do it, look at Yzak and Dearka (they
couldn't use the SEED mode, even there's a story about how Yzak really want to
know that power and failed ^__^, you can watch it in SEED Jealousy) and even a
Natural can be in SEED mode, such as Cagalli ^^
In fact, there's always some Coordinator change side, look what happen to Athrun
when he realize how bad his father's goal? He changed his mind and he joined Orb
army and I think there are so many people, Coordinators especially who's not
arrogant and feel more powerful than Natural. Coordinator who think can live
peacefully with Natural, that's why Orb was there ^^
They can change side and even help Natural to defense themself ^^
Technology usually comes number one ^^ and the most powerful is quantity ^^, err
I mean number. No matter how strong are you, you still can loose if you're under
attack of so many people (except for Rambo hahahha) around you and I think that
nature law is still happen ^^
Yeah, Shinn also disobeyed the rules in military, he even release Stellar whom
he knew as an enemy ^__^, why Gilbert use Shinn as a pilot of Gundam? Why he
didn't choose Yzak? Yzak killed 2 gundams in SEED ^__^ and he almost killed Kira
too if Athrun didn't help Kira by capture Strike with Aegis, right? Too bad,
there's no skillful pilot enough who can make Kira or Athrun depressed in battle
^__^
I think no much emotions in GSD, I didn't feel how Lunamaria sad after Meyrin's
dead (she didn't know yet that actually Meyrin was survived).
The love story between Lunamaria and Shinn was not make sense to me, they fallen
in love to easily each other after they first person they like was dead (Stellar
who's really dead and Athrun who supposed to be dead too).
I remember one MS that actually didn't need to build, remember an MS that was
for Meer performance? But it could make me laugh hahahhaha...so that's fine
nywhahahaha
@Ealpha-scorpio : I agree with your statement ^^
@UchihaTaijiya : Yes, Cagalli was imprisoned back then before her wedding with
Yuna..If you couldn't see why, well then she was imprisoned mentally..Look
carefully, all her friend who live under her protection ans support are
Coordinator and the worst part was Athrun, he's a Chairman Zala's son after all
who wanted to destroy Earth with Genesis..What would people do if they know Alex
Dino is Athrun Zala at that time? Cagalli take this risk to save and heal
Athrun..he's not injured physically but mentally, who knows? His dad got killed
in front of his eyes, He almost killed himself, well, he was a soldier who
survived after a great battle..If people found out that time that Alex is
actually a Zala, may be they can capture or punish or kill him and Cagalli
couldn't take the position as Leader of ORB..I admit she didn't have such a
power like Uzumi had and that make me angry too! Remember how Jona threatened
Cagalli when they were in a car after visited Uzumi's grave?Watch again if you
already forgot..May be Cagalli feel that even after 2 years, the position of
Athrun, Kira, Lacus as Coordinator and they were involve in the last battle of
SEED was still in danger if people found out..As I said, even she's a Leader,
she has no power, well not enough to against all the emirs decisions..At that
time, she didn't know if Kira was still in recovery mental after SEED or
not..She wanted Kira and others can live in Orb as peaceful as they were that
time and I think even she shouted and angry at Kira, inside her heart, she felt
grateful for Kira saving her from the nightmare marriage..So may be she looked
stupid but her heart was kind, she was forced to marry Jona, many people said
it's for ORB but I think Cagalli has her other reason which want to protect Kira
and other who was involved in the last battle at Orb, oh, don't forget that
everyone in AA are branded as a TRAITOR of EA and Orb/Cagalli took risk to hide
her under Orb protection and even changed their name! I think this was one of
her stupid decision/fault for marrying Jona as you said UchihaTaijiya..Please,
don't mad at Cagalli anymore, we'll see that she'll performance better in the
movie and she'll be unite with Athrun again...^^
Back then in SEED, she still had a father who would help her and don't forget,
Uzumi had people who willingly support whatever his decision, very different
with Cagalli's situation in GSD..In SEED, she can act whatever she wanted to
since everybody in the government were all Uzumi's supporter..She knew her
father could give her a protection etc BUT she couldn't do whatever she wanted
to do in GSD because ONCE she made a mistake, NO ONE can protect her! We can see
that Cagalli still had a spirit at episode 1 when she yelled at Gilbert ^__^
Cagalli was stuck in AA yes, I admit it made me angry..she looked so weak! I
don't like it BUT may be Cagalli feel more save, secure while she was in AA than
in Orb which everyday she had to argue with so many people in parliament while
she had noone to support her! We can see that the supporter she had was in
MILLITARY! Seiran is still a whole family while Athha is Cagalli alone!
Meyrin didn't have more right than Cagalli..Athrun is still a man who already
gave a ring to His Girlfriend! They didn't break up yet so Meyrin did not have
more right to be near Athrun than Cagalli! Do you want a break up with out any
single word comes out from your former lover? Athrun had the right to know why
Cagalli removed his ring and this can be a reason for them to talk heart to
heart! She can be near Athrun as much as she wanted to but she has no more right
than Cagalli to be with Athrun!
Some of this point were taken from Hibiscus shrine : (thank you alot
^^)
Cagalli saved Athrun's life twice (maybe even three times):
i.) She rescued Athrun when she found him after the destructive battle between
Kira and Athrun
ii.) She stopped him from self-destructing his Justice gundam in the Genesis and
gave him the will to continue to live
iii.) Even though Cagalli wasn't able to be with Athrun while he was with ZAFT
for most of Destiny, she still ended up saving his life (and Meyrin's as well).
Actually, to be more exact, Kisaka, Cagalli's past bodyguard, was the one who
saved Athrun. Kisaka, disguised as an Earth Alliance official, saw the entire
battle between Athrun, Rey and Shinn; he witnessed Athrun's attempted desertion
from ZAFT. Once he saw the blue GOUF fly by where he was, Kisaka ran off
somewhere. I'm not sure if he knew who was piloting the GOUF at the time, but he
still saved Athrun's life after Shinn "destroyed" the mobile suit that
Athrun and Meyrin were in. I think Kisaka may have known that it was Athrun
piloting the GOUF (the expression on his face from episode 37 kind of looked
like as if he knew who was piloting the GOUF). He brought Athrun to the
Archangel, where Cagalli was (who happened to be really shocked when she saw how
badly injured Athrun was; she was really worried about him, as can be seen when
Cagalli was watching over him, while he was still unconscious). Since Kisaka is
connected to Cagalli, this means that Cagalli saved his life again. I believe
that this is a sign that AthrunxCagalli are definitely meant to be together. How
else could fate have brought AthrunxCagalli back together?
Both Cagalli and Meyrin put their lives on the line for Athrun. However, Cagalli
risked more for Athrun. I bet you're wondering how right?
Let's start with Meyrin. Meyrin Hawke, as seen in episode 36, is a talented
hacker. She managed to trigger a false alarm, which bought enough time for
Athrun to escape. Although she knew that the false alarm could be re-traced to
her room, Meyrin took that risk nonetheless. She knew the consequences if anyone
realized that it was her who helped Athrun escape. She risked her life, her
position and her loyalty to ZAFT to save Athrun.
Cagalli on the other hand, risked her life as well as her respect and position
as ORB's chief representative for Athrun's sake. If anyone found out that her
bodyguard is the son of ex-Chairman Zala (the man who tried to wipe out all
Naturals) and that she was his girlfriend, it'd be a pretty big scandal that
would take ORB by storm. Cagalli would lose all respect that she had (i.e. no
one would trust her for ORB's future), which would ultimately ruin her life (as
well as Athrun's) with all the paparazzi following AthrunxCagalli around.
Everyone would immediately want a new representative for ORB or would want
Cagalli (and Athrun) out of ORB. For Cagalli, being the daughter of Uzumi Nara
Athha and the rightful heir to ORB, losing ORB would affect her a lot (i.e. it's
her homeland). Even though Cagalli knew what would happen if anyone found out
that she was allowing the son of a manic (yes, I consider Athrun's father a
maniac for trying to rid the world of the Naturals lol) to live with her and
that Athrun was her boyfriend, she still allowed Athrun to be with her, remain
close to her/by her side, in ORB; she allowed Athrun to be her support, just
like Lacus being Kira's support, no matter the risk
In my opinion, I'd say that Cagalli risked more. Losing the respect of an entire
nation (with millions of people who look up to you) and risking your life beats
what Meyrin sacrificed anyday.
Cagalli did not give Athrun to Meyrin. She only asked her to take care of Athrun
in her place, since she couldn't go with them this time. She didn't say
"Here Meyrin, Athrun's yours. I don't want him; he's not mine
anymore.." Cagalli did not want to leave Athrun (you can tell that she
didn't want to by looking at her face), but she had no choice but to entrust
Athrun to someone. Cagalli also had tears in her eyes after she told Meyrin
that. If Cagalli was able to go with them, I'm sure she would be on the
frontlines like she was in Seed, fighting alongside with Athrun.
Many of the scans from magazines, cards, etc also show AthrunxCagalli together
(like a couple), no Meyrin and Athrun. For example, in one scan, a beach scene
scan, it had three couples: KiraxLacus, ShinnxLunamaria and AthrunxCagalli. I
think it was released after Destiny had ended. AthrunxCagalli are still
together!
Whooaa..I am really happy to read your comment about this series ^^
@shinn24 : I couldn't find any better words beside Destiny is worse than seed
hahahaha...so what you suggest? But I think I couldn't change the topic ne~?
Shinn was supposed to be the main hero but unfortunately he turned to be the
antagonist one hehehhe but I honestly glad it happened that way ^^ I don't like
Shinn with his childish behaviour, especially about "I AM ALWAYS
RIGHT" thing =__=
About Shinn can beat Freedom thing.. I tought it was his Luck that time but I
must admit that it can be happened because he and Rey had observed Freedom first
also..Shinn manage to use Kira's weakness not to kill people hahhaha..
Battle in GSD seems a bit boring..to much re-scene -__- and that 'mini' Genesis
was really un-inovatived to Gilbert (sorry, I couldn't find the right
words)..Gilbert just re-used the same method with what Patrick Zala did -__- not
creative hahahaha...
I like to see Kira being unbeatable in GSD well except the lost he receive from
Shinn that time (Freedom was beated) but I am more interested if Kira has a
rival again like he got from SEED (First he had to beat Athrun and then he had
to fight with Rau)..both Rey and Shinn are nothing to Athrun and Kira =__= Even
Minerva was beaten with Infinite Justice hahahhaha
Then..then...hm, where were Djibril in SEED? Logos was said as a 'mother' for
Blue Cosmos..but we heard nothing about it in SEED and suddenly in GSD there was
a scene about Mwu being take care by him after SEED was over..I am really
confused hahahhaa...
Add more, like I said before...I didn't like the fact that Akatsuki was build
long time ago by Uzumi for Cagalli which it was meant for Cagalli to use if ORB
was under attack AGAIN/the second time..I wonder if Uzumi ever think what will
happen if Azrael found Akatsuki in SEED wahahahha...It's his unfortunate not to
find this georgeus MS hahahaa....I like more if Akatsuki was build by
people/mechanics or whatever it name for Cagalli that time, may be another same
scenario when Strike ROUGE was build back then in SEED....I love seeing Akatsuki
ahahhaa..I love its shine hohohoho ^o^
Then again, as an AsuKaga Lover..I am really dissapointed because there's no
Athrun and Cagalli scene at the end of GSD even in Special Edition hiks2...or
even in Final Plus hiks2...I'd love to see Cagalli was there too hm, I thought
if it better if after Kira and Lacus came until Shinn and Kira shake hands, then
Cagalli come over too after meeting with emirs etc blah blah..I want Shin to
apologize to Cagalli since she did nothing wrong to that lil boy! But I'm sure
Cagalli will be the one who'd say 'sorry' to Shinn first for Uzumi..She's a
gentle and kind heart person by the way ahahhah....May be a little chat then I
want to see Athrun hugged Cagalli again huaaaa...I WANNA TO SEE ATHRUN AND
CAGALLI CAN BE TOGETHER AGAIN! Fukuda-san~~! Onegai ne~~~~!
Don't break up my FAVOURITE COUPLE! Please create another male char for Meyrin,
no Athrun for Meyrin as lover huaaaaaaaaaaa! *AsuKaga mode on*
Ok back to normal mode on hehehhe....now about the cloning thing...Rau said that
Kira was the Last experiment then what about Rey? I wonder could be another
clone in the next series or even in the movie?
Yeah, I am agree with Spyderz..Why Shinn who's piloted Gundam? Gilbert has
wasted Yzak and Dearka skill nyahaahhaha....I wonder who will piloting Abyss,
Gaia and Chaos if it's not stolen? In SEED we knew that 5 pilot of Blitz,
Strike, Duel, Aegis and Buster was dead during the attack by ZAFT at Heliopolis
right? Ok, I think I'll stop for now...I want to read another comment ne~
*AsuKaga mode on* Waaaaaa, I wanna see them together again and more scene about
them both in movie and next series if there's gonna be the next series ^^ (dunno
what I said...)
Dunno why but I just wanna know who's you like the most in DW hohoho...
And WHY HIM/HER?
Awright..for me I choose Zhao Yun from Shu..Why? Becoz he's so COOL and
LOYAL..He is so brave young man and HE IS SOOO HANDSOME!
I love he's not involve in any romantic relationship with anyone inside the
story, so he can be MINE!
I love his outfit too ^^ also I love his voice actor..really match up with his
character nyahahahha....
I love his fighting style ^^ He's not too big and he can run fast ^^
Then I chose my own female character nyahahhaa..coz I can make her as the way I
wanted to haahahhaha...I always play Zhao Yun first after he showed up then I
paired him with my own character named my own hahahhahaha...COOL!
I always looking for him in every DW series I played at first then after he's
level and weapon are max, I choose to play another char which belong to Shu at
first hahahah...
LOVE ZHAO YUN! Muach...
Dunno why but I just wanna know who's you like the most in DW hohoho...
And WHY HIM/HER?
Awright..for me I choose Zhao Yun from Shu..Why? Becoz he's so COOL and
LOYAL..He is so brave young man and HE IS SOOO HANDSOME!
I love he's not involve in any romantic relationship with anyone inside the
story, so he can be MINE!
I love his outfit too ^^ also I love his voice actor..really match up with his
character nyahahahha....
I love his fighting style ^^ He's not too big and he can run fast ^^
Then I chose my own female character nyahahhaa..coz I can make her as the way I
wanted to haahahhaha...I always play Zhao Yun first after he showed up then I
paired him with my own character named my own hahahhahaha...COOL!
I always looking for him in every DW series I played at first then after he's
level and weapon are max, I choose to play another char which belong to Shu at
first hahahah...
LOVE ZHAO YUN! Muach...
I want to see Athrun and Cagalli, to be together again..Cagalli piloted Akatsuki
while Athrun piloted Infinite Justice and they fight on the same side
hohohoho...New enemy with great strategy etc..Rival for Athrun and Kira..No more
girls around Athrun please? I wanna see Dearka meet Miriallia again..I wanna see
Yzak and Shiho too..I hope they have more scene especially Shiho then I want
Yzak and Dearka have new gundams wahahahaha...
I hope if I see Shin again, he needs to be more mature than in GSD..
Fiuh, I want enemies who can fight Athrun, Kira, Yzak, Dearka and Shin
equally.
Hm, I wanna see battle with strategies too..not only depending on their gundams
power..
I really want to see my beloved Athrun and Cagalli involve in romantic scene ^^
My replies :
@Getay : I agree with ealpha-scorpio said why people actually love Kira and
Athrun more than Shin.
For me, why I didn't like Shin because he's really arogant and egoist. He didn't
try to think why Athrun betray ZAFT once again at that time. He didn't look at
himself with what he did to ZAFT by releasing Stellar. I know he cared for her.
I didn't like he had to yell, angry to anyone who didn't have the same idea with
him. He yelled at Cagalli for become a good heart leader yet he release Stellar
because his own feeling, he didn't feel sorry because what he did by releasing
Stellar and that cost many people have to die when Stellar piloted Destroyer. He
didn't hate himself for what he did before without thinking about that
possibility since he released an enemy instead he hate Kira who's trying to stop
Stellar. He didn't feel what happened to cities which attacked by Destroyer was
because of HIS FAULT. He feel himself like a superhero yet he made so many
mistake in battle. I prefer Setsuna from Gundam 00 to Shin, really! I don't like
Shin since he always think that "I AM ALWAYS RIGHT". He's so easily to
manipulate.
I hate seeing Shin so angry with Kira who wanted to stop Destroyer when he knew
Stellar is the pilot. I think Shin is the type who can be called as a Berserker.
It'a not Kira since Kira still has feeling to the enemy he killed. Kira cried
for killing Nicol. Kira cried when he had to kill so many people unlike Shin.
Once Shin got mad, he didn't think anything anymore, all he wanted is to win the
fight. He didn't feel sorry for those he killed during the battle. He didn't
grieve to people who lost their family because of Destoryer. I know it could be
piloted by someone and not Stellar but the fact is Shin knew the pilot was
Stellar and I think it'd better if there's scene that he felt sorry to people
who being killed because Stellar. He loves her I know but too bad Shin didn't
have feeling to give up someone important to save people. Athrun had to kill
Kira in SEED, he didn't want to but he did take Kira down because Kira killed so
many people back then in SEED. We can see he always thinking what he should do
when he met Kira again in battlefield. When Kira's gundam went down, He didn't
let Yzak to kill him, Athrun tried to capture Kira. At least in SEED we can see
that both Athrun and Kira still have feeling of sorry to people they have killed
during the battle. We couldn't see Shin like that in Destiny. All his doing was
how to become a stronger person. He never think what Kira did to Stellar was
because Stellar couldn't stop to attack since she saw Freedom. Shin blamed Kira
who killed Stellar and try to get revenge. It's not the same case when Athrun
tried to get revenge for Nicol's death. Stellar was attacking citizen who known
as an original people when Kira beated her in GSD but if you guys watch SEED the
case was not attacking unarmed people.
He even tried to kill Luna who tried to stop his fight with Athrun. That's a
BERSERKER I think.
May be Fukuda tried to be more complex in Destiny but I think he failed. Too
much hole in Destiny like I said in my comments earlier. I think it's better if
Rey's rival was Neo since Neo said that he looked forward for their another
battle but it never came up and also too many characters that Fukuda had wasted
in Destiny unlike in SEED. Look what had happened to Vino, Youlant as Shin's
friend and as the enginner? We knew what happened with Kuzzey back then at SEED.
Lunamaria didn't show her grieve from her sister's death instead she's falling
in love with Shin after that..too soon I think since she adored Athrun so much
back then when Athrun was still a Minerva crew. Shin needs to be more mature in
another series of SEED.
About Djibril things, well yeah I prefer Azrael to Djibril. He's such a coward
who hides behind people.
Meer..hm, I think Fukuda need more phases if he wanted to make Destiny better
than SEED. When Lacus finally showed herself in front of public what happen
next? NOTHING as if people didn't care if the 'Lacus' in ZAFT side is FAKE! The
story told us that people of ZAFT adored Lacus so much but they didn't feel
anything when they knew their president even had lied to them all this time.
Nothing happen to the world or even at PLANT about tha fact that someone has
imposter their idol. I think PLANT and ZAFT people didn't love Lacus that much
since they felt nothing to Meer. That was I get from what I saw that phase.
People of ORB especially the military looked really really angry when they knew
someone tried to imposter their leader..okay we can say they love Cagalli too
right similar to people who love Lacus at PLANT and ZAFT. Look what happen to
them? They attacked the person who they think tried to become the imposter of
Cagalli, well they didn't know that she is the real Cagalli. I think that is
something Fukuda missed. And the funny thing is..Shin was the hero at first but
then he's turned become the antagonist since the main hero fall to Kira ^__^
I really love to watch GSD Special Edition since the main hero is not changing
in the middle of story but still it didn't cover the holes in GSD since it's too
much hahahahhhaa...
Fukuda-san, please make the movie better than SEED okay? Onegai~~
Well, that's my opinion tee hee~~
Can't wait to read another comment ne~ ^^
Cagalli can be with Athrun..all we've read at almost every fics and doujins
saying that Cagalli can't be with Athrun because her duty..I don't agree with
these stuffs..
They can be together if the director wants to! In fact Athrun is already with
ORB after the GSD over..Meyrin can love Athrun as much as she want to..i just
can't accept if Athrun falls for another girl so fast and beside he didn't tell
a word to Cagalli..If he's really a gentleman, he must to talk with Cagalli
first before he's move on especially if another girl come into his love
life..nonsense if people saying 'There's nothing to talk anymore!' well, Athrun
still need to talk to Cagalli first..He's such a coward if he just gone away
with Meyrin like you guys said earlier..He and Kira as Cagalli's twin are
bestfriend so Athrun had to find a way to speak to Cagalli ^__^even though she's
very busy..
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@deathknelld : well, to me Athrun and Meyrin stood as friend at the ending of
GSD..Look carefully, Athrun walked in front of Meyrin..He looked so troubled
because his unfinished bussiness with his lover back then..He looked troubled
because Cagalli release her ring..Meyrin had feeling for Athrun, yes I admit it,
may be love..it can be happen since Athrun is so nice guy and has a nice
look..At that scene Athrun didn't mind if Meyrin goes with Shinn and Luna since
he never looked back to see if Mayrin walked behind him o not..He didn't care
since his mind was not focus on Meyrin..His mind completely thinking about His
Cagalli...But the fact is Meyrin decided to walk with Athrun..She has feeling
for Athrun anyway..
Fukuda has the right to destroy the relationship between Athrun and Cagalli and
I admit it'll make me sad, really! So I do hope he can create another man for
Meyrin to feel the real love..Athrun wouldn't give Cagalli the ring if he's not
in love with her..Athrun really loves Cagalli...He never looked at Meyrin or
Meer or Luna or Lacus like He looked at Cagalli...Watch your GS and GSD once
again hahahahhha if you do have time ^_^
You can see when he looked at Cagalli, he smiled, he laughed..the way he looked
at her really special unlike with the others girls..I really thank you because
Fukuda made those scene..it can be seen after Athrun decided to join Orb army in
GS..He look sad but relieved at the same time after he rejoined Orb army again
in GSD..I think both Athrun and Cagalli have to talk heart to heart to settle
their problems..they current status..about their future etc..^^
I admit Athrun care about Meyrin's safety since she gave up everything to come
with him to Orb..He didn't want Meyrin to feel sad since they'll have to fight
againts ZAFT so he asked Meyrin to leave the AA..
Cagalli must find people like Uzumi had..People around Uzumi were really obeyed
their leader..When Cagalli found them, Orb can become a great nation with great
heart too..so Athrun can be with Cagalli..Even Athrun can become most high rank
such as commander at military of ORB with his talent..Like what happen with our
beloved Kira and Lacus..
That's what I really want to be happen...all we need is more time..I hope the
movie can fulfill my dreams about my lovely couple ^^ like what happen with
Cloud and Tifa in FFAC hahahahahaha...
Yeah! I thank you bored-san for your previous post about the Edge manga ^^ (I love this manga though I haven't read them all but I knew that there's no Meyrin both in Athrun's escape and when they met Meer at Copernicus hahaha)..Actually I think the people who loves Athrun and Meyrin pairings basically they didn't like Cagalli since SEED that's why they make this Asu-Mey pairings although there's nothing romantic scene between Athrun and Meyrin, no at all! not even in GSD..Don't be mad, that's what I think..
@MiyuCagalli : Yeah, you can join us at the group which bored-san told about ^__^
Yeah! Agree with you Raidow about Shinn and Lunamaria relationship! I'm not against their relationship but I need to see something, the flow of how Luna can love Shinn after Shinn supposed have killed her little sister? I think may be Luna must hate Shinn at first since he is the killer of Meyrin! Then whatever, the creator should add more scene to unite Shinn and Lunamaria, right? It's just too fast for both of them T__T
About Kira-Lacus thing, yeah..no comment for this couple hahahha...I support them too ^^
About Athrun-Cagalli, yep! If they want to end their romance relationship, please make the scene more natural and logic..Make the flow such as at SEED which everything between them begun ^__^ but still hoping that Athrun and Cagalli can be a couple again ^^ (Love them very much ne~)
Too many people said that Cagalli was not a good pilot right? Then Lunamaria was even worse than Cagalli ^^
Fukuda should make her stronger since she's wearing a red uniform.
You know when Djibril launched to Moon from Orb, Luna couldn't hit the Seiran's shuttle even once while the shuttle just flied straight..Yare2 desu ne~?
The story was too fast ^^ That which made Destiny much worse than SEED in story I think..
About Athrun said that Lacus's assassination could've been attempted by individuals who had no relation to the chairman..How can he said that? The only one who knew that Meer is a fake was Gilbert and his man (and Athrun himself of course)..It proved enough to me that Lacus's assassination was planned by Gilbert himself, don't you agree?
Next, Athrun promised to find out about Lacus's assassination but he never tried to do that! Yare2 Athrun-san -__-'
Yeah, I didn't get it! I can't understand why people really against AA and Freedom ne~?
Shinn Asuka, angry and hate Cagalli, saying "Athha killed my family". Then he hate Orb because of it. Want to burn it down with his own hands just because of that? He lived in Orb like a normal family, smiling, laughing with his family ON ORB, how can he never remember the good part that Orb ever gave him?He did lose his family and he can blame Athha but how could he hate Orb that much and even tried to burnt down that nation? Orb had its citizen whom probably had the same destiny like his, why he never even thinking that way? He tried to kill Cagalli that's fine with me since he hates Cagalli so much but when he wanted so bad to destroy Orb, I hate him a lot, thinking that only himself who suffer because of the war..
Then he acted like spoiled brat. He did what he likes, give Stellar back to the enemy and the stupid thing is he believed in Neo (HIS ENEMY/EAF) that Stellar would never go to fight again. HE BELIEVED IN HIM, HECK he knew Neo was an enemy! And when Stellar piloted Destroyer, she burnt down 3 cities and killed so many innocent people but he hated Kira more just because he destroyed the Destroyer. He even tried to take revenge on Stellar's death. I would say that Stellar didn't die because Kira killed her, if Kira was the one who killed her, how can Stellar's body is perfectly fine? 2 hands and 2 legs?
I think Stellar died because her medicine was out, hm know what I mean?
Kira just saved hundreds or may be thousands people in those cities...AND THEY ARE ALL CORDINATORS! How can the citizen didn't do anything when Gilbert start chasing AA? Blame Orb etc? How can the people of ZAFT didn't have a thought when they start attacking AA (ArchAngel)? I need to see some protest from ZAFT to their leader since they knew the one that saved those cities were AA and Freedom, right? I mean, why nobody can say something like this "why we should attack AA? They saved us right?" Yeah, I mean why Coordinator that supposed to be smarter couldn't think straight? Why they couldn't blame Shinn? He's the one that release the enemy right? Talia knew it! She's the captain but didn't have authority ne~, Shinn was is Minerva after all -__-'
Too bad, I think Murrue is smarter than her hahahaha.....Talia was always controlled by Gilbert (like there was no other warship hahahha)..Every mission was on Minerva's shoulder ^^
Well, Gilbert was smart enough to always control Minerva and Shinn too hahahaha...He used them since he knew that he couldn't use Yzak and Dearka to carry on his ambitions ^^ (Gil has wasted their capability and skill ne~)
Hahahha..I actually enjoyed the beginning of GSD but then keep getting low or should I say suckier hahahaha, nothing interested as the story flows......and worst ending! Yup, I agree to that, it's not only about Athrun and Cagalli relationship but still many holes that need explanation for us who've watched SEED! And yup, too many new characters but not really useful! Nobody in Minerva want to act to protest Shinn since he disobey their rules! I hate a leader such as Gilbert, seems nice with evil plan! True, Yzak and Dearka was wasted in GSD, they have great skill and they are an ace too, especially Yzak Jule, right? He killed two extended in SEED last battle! Hm, Heine was slashed not by Kira but by Stellar ne~? He was between Kira and Stellar so Stellar killed him
New losers? Yeah, so much of them such as Djibril and Yuna with his father (Unato Ema) and the Orb's elder (nice to know that they died together hahaha and Yuna got killed by defeated Gouff if I'm not mistaken hahahaha....stupid death) and don't forget there are also stupid big MS, Gundam Destroyer which really easy to slash T__T
Then about Meyrin saved Athrun's life! She did that secretly, and unfortunately Rey saw them and that's made Athrun no other option except brought her with him. I think, if Rey didn't see them, Athrun would not bring her with him because there's no danger for Meyrin if she stayed in Minerva. I mean, even when finally ZAFT knew that she was the one who helped Athrun, there were so many people can defend her action by saying "may be Athrun put a gun on her throat so Meyrin had to do this", nobody knew what really happened. Too bad, Rey saw them and he saw that Meyrin helped Athrun with her will, not by force so that's the bad news.You saw it too right, so many people can defend her action such as Lunamaria, Talia, Vino etc IF Rey didn't see them! Look at what happen with Shinn after he release Stellar from Minerva?
Interesting!
Here's mine
toumarie
You are idealistic and have a keen intellect and imagination. Philosophical with a gentle, romantic and giving nature your desire is to help others and benefit mankind. You attract many friends and are loved by all for your nurturing and understanding ways. Once a project has been started your determination and focus always ensures that it is completed. You exude peace and contentment and bring this into your environment and associations
true...its actually made by asukaga's fans
Here's the link to the original arts... http://andante.gonna.jp/index3/aoi.html
made by Aoi Hibiki...
Hmph! I told you before in my previous post!
Try to look in his gallery!
Hello there,
I wanna to help and I do hope I can help with my bad english but I pray to God that you'll understand what I wrote...
I think I kinda understand...First of all, A was and maybe is a black sheep in your family...What would you do if you were A back then? Can you understand what I mean?
When he quarrels with other member, is he the only one who was always to be blame? Did you know the real reason why they're fighting?I think you didn't know the real reason of it. You guys in the family always talk about that the elder should back down! You jugde him without knowing why. You guys only know how to blame him. So when B or C or D have a quarrel, he just copied what you all said, he just copied what you guys did to him!
Think, what are you gonna do if YOU'RE HIM?
What religion you have?
Hahahaha....Yay! Thank you bored-san hohoho....YAY!
Always support Athrun and Cagalli as a pairing ^^
1. Agree! So Athrun did not have any romantic relationship with other girls beside Cagalli! He never kissed them!
2. Ok, I can accept it....Just see the movie then...
I actually wanna believe that Cagalli and Athrun can become a couple again since so many arts and piccies in the magazine shows that they almost always drawn together with other pairings...
I love to see Asucaga be together again...I do hope really that in this movie there willl be more scene between Athrun and Cagalli...but if the director wants to separate them..I have to accept it but I'd be sad T__T
Hi there...I've read some of the comments here..and I agree with whom like the Lulu and C.C pairings ^^...I hope they can become a couple ^^
For the best Gundams and MS I can agree that they are cooler in Destiny than in SEED but still the story is much better in Seed than Destiny...Now I think I can say that Destiny would be better if it has another phase so that the holes in SEED can be fill in Destiny instead of making another holes..Hm, holes is mean something weird and need explanation....I hope you understand what I meant...
Plus may be more character will have their own roles not just like Vino or Youlan ^^
the story goes too fast ^__^ as if like was hunted by time, episodes etc
its okey
but could you tell us why you chose destiny than seed? thanks ^^
Gundam SEED/Destiny - Athrun Zala
Final Fantasy AC - Cloud Strife
Naruto - Hyuuga Neji
@BlackSun : Yeah, I agree with you, if Coordinators are more capable of anything than Natural, they shouldn't have a hard time to wipe a bunch of armies of Natural ^__^
but a SEED mode is not everyone can do it, look at Yzak and Dearka (they couldn't use the SEED mode, even there's a story about how Yzak really want to know that power and failed ^__^, you can watch it in SEED Jealousy) and even a Natural can be in SEED mode, such as Cagalli ^^
In fact, there's always some Coordinator change side, look what happen to Athrun when he realize how bad his father's goal? He changed his mind and he joined Orb army and I think there are so many people, Coordinators especially who's not arrogant and feel more powerful than Natural. Coordinator who think can live peacefully with Natural, that's why Orb was there ^^
They can change side and even help Natural to defense themself ^^
Technology usually comes number one ^^ and the most powerful is quantity ^^, err I mean number. No matter how strong are you, you still can loose if you're under attack of so many people (except for Rambo hahahha) around you and I think that nature law is still happen ^^
Yeah, Shinn also disobeyed the rules in military, he even release Stellar whom he knew as an enemy ^__^, why Gilbert use Shinn as a pilot of Gundam? Why he didn't choose Yzak? Yzak killed 2 gundams in SEED ^__^ and he almost killed Kira too if Athrun didn't help Kira by capture Strike with Aegis, right? Too bad, there's no skillful pilot enough who can make Kira or Athrun depressed in battle ^__^
I think no much emotions in GSD, I didn't feel how Lunamaria sad after Meyrin's dead (she didn't know yet that actually Meyrin was survived).
The love story between Lunamaria and Shinn was not make sense to me, they fallen in love to easily each other after they first person they like was dead (Stellar who's really dead and Athrun who supposed to be dead too).
I remember one MS that actually didn't need to build, remember an MS that was for Meer performance? But it could make me laugh hahahhaha...so that's fine nywhahahaha
Agree with you Ethiwen..Athrun and Cagalli should be together!
yeah everybody can make their own story ne~ but i do hope Athrun and Cagalli are still together as Lover ^^
can't wait to see the movie T__T
@Ealpha-scorpio : I agree with your statement ^^
@UchihaTaijiya : Yes, Cagalli was imprisoned back then before her wedding with Yuna..If you couldn't see why, well then she was imprisoned mentally..Look carefully, all her friend who live under her protection ans support are Coordinator and the worst part was Athrun, he's a Chairman Zala's son after all who wanted to destroy Earth with Genesis..What would people do if they know Alex Dino is Athrun Zala at that time? Cagalli take this risk to save and heal Athrun..he's not injured physically but mentally, who knows? His dad got killed in front of his eyes, He almost killed himself, well, he was a soldier who survived after a great battle..If people found out that time that Alex is actually a Zala, may be they can capture or punish or kill him and Cagalli couldn't take the position as Leader of ORB..I admit she didn't have such a power like Uzumi had and that make me angry too! Remember how Jona threatened Cagalli when they were in a car after visited Uzumi's grave?Watch again if you already forgot..May be Cagalli feel that even after 2 years, the position of Athrun, Kira, Lacus as Coordinator and they were involve in the last battle of SEED was still in danger if people found out..As I said, even she's a Leader, she has no power, well not enough to against all the emirs decisions..At that time, she didn't know if Kira was still in recovery mental after SEED or not..She wanted Kira and others can live in Orb as peaceful as they were that time and I think even she shouted and angry at Kira, inside her heart, she felt grateful for Kira saving her from the nightmare marriage..So may be she looked stupid but her heart was kind, she was forced to marry Jona, many people said it's for ORB but I think Cagalli has her other reason which want to protect Kira and other who was involved in the last battle at Orb, oh, don't forget that everyone in AA are branded as a TRAITOR of EA and Orb/Cagalli took risk to hide her under Orb protection and even changed their name! I think this was one of her stupid decision/fault for marrying Jona as you said UchihaTaijiya..Please, don't mad at Cagalli anymore, we'll see that she'll performance better in the movie and she'll be unite with Athrun again...^^
Back then in SEED, she still had a father who would help her and don't forget, Uzumi had people who willingly support whatever his decision, very different with Cagalli's situation in GSD..In SEED, she can act whatever she wanted to since everybody in the government were all Uzumi's supporter..She knew her father could give her a protection etc BUT she couldn't do whatever she wanted to do in GSD because ONCE she made a mistake, NO ONE can protect her! We can see that Cagalli still had a spirit at episode 1 when she yelled at Gilbert ^__^
Cagalli was stuck in AA yes, I admit it made me angry..she looked so weak! I don't like it BUT may be Cagalli feel more save, secure while she was in AA than in Orb which everyday she had to argue with so many people in parliament while she had noone to support her! We can see that the supporter she had was in MILLITARY! Seiran is still a whole family while Athha is Cagalli alone!
Meyrin didn't have more right than Cagalli..Athrun is still a man who already gave a ring to His Girlfriend! They didn't break up yet so Meyrin did not have more right to be near Athrun than Cagalli! Do you want a break up with out any single word comes out from your former lover? Athrun had the right to know why Cagalli removed his ring and this can be a reason for them to talk heart to heart! She can be near Athrun as much as she wanted to but she has no more right than Cagalli to be with Athrun!
Some of this point were taken from Hibiscus shrine : (thank you alot ^^)
Cagalli saved Athrun's life twice (maybe even three times):
i.) She rescued Athrun when she found him after the destructive battle between Kira and Athrun
ii.) She stopped him from self-destructing his Justice gundam in the Genesis and gave him the will to continue to live
iii.) Even though Cagalli wasn't able to be with Athrun while he was with ZAFT for most of Destiny, she still ended up saving his life (and Meyrin's as well). Actually, to be more exact, Kisaka, Cagalli's past bodyguard, was the one who saved Athrun. Kisaka, disguised as an Earth Alliance official, saw the entire battle between Athrun, Rey and Shinn; he witnessed Athrun's attempted desertion from ZAFT. Once he saw the blue GOUF fly by where he was, Kisaka ran off somewhere. I'm not sure if he knew who was piloting the GOUF at the time, but he still saved Athrun's life after Shinn "destroyed" the mobile suit that Athrun and Meyrin were in. I think Kisaka may have known that it was Athrun piloting the GOUF (the expression on his face from episode 37 kind of looked like as if he knew who was piloting the GOUF). He brought Athrun to the Archangel, where Cagalli was (who happened to be really shocked when she saw how badly injured Athrun was; she was really worried about him, as can be seen when Cagalli was watching over him, while he was still unconscious). Since Kisaka is connected to Cagalli, this means that Cagalli saved his life again. I believe that this is a sign that AthrunxCagalli are definitely meant to be together. How else could fate have brought AthrunxCagalli back together?
Both Cagalli and Meyrin put their lives on the line for Athrun. However, Cagalli risked more for Athrun. I bet you're wondering how right?
Let's start with Meyrin. Meyrin Hawke, as seen in episode 36, is a talented hacker. She managed to trigger a false alarm, which bought enough time for Athrun to escape. Although she knew that the false alarm could be re-traced to her room, Meyrin took that risk nonetheless. She knew the consequences if anyone realized that it was her who helped Athrun escape. She risked her life, her position and her loyalty to ZAFT to save Athrun.
Cagalli on the other hand, risked her life as well as her respect and position as ORB's chief representative for Athrun's sake. If anyone found out that her bodyguard is the son of ex-Chairman Zala (the man who tried to wipe out all Naturals) and that she was his girlfriend, it'd be a pretty big scandal that would take ORB by storm. Cagalli would lose all respect that she had (i.e. no one would trust her for ORB's future), which would ultimately ruin her life (as well as Athrun's) with all the paparazzi following AthrunxCagalli around. Everyone would immediately want a new representative for ORB or would want Cagalli (and Athrun) out of ORB. For Cagalli, being the daughter of Uzumi Nara Athha and the rightful heir to ORB, losing ORB would affect her a lot (i.e. it's her homeland). Even though Cagalli knew what would happen if anyone found out that she was allowing the son of a manic (yes, I consider Athrun's father a maniac for trying to rid the world of the Naturals lol) to live with her and that Athrun was her boyfriend, she still allowed Athrun to be with her, remain close to her/by her side, in ORB; she allowed Athrun to be her support, just like Lacus being Kira's support, no matter the risk
In my opinion, I'd say that Cagalli risked more. Losing the respect of an entire nation (with millions of people who look up to you) and risking your life beats what Meyrin sacrificed anyday.
Cagalli did not give Athrun to Meyrin. She only asked her to take care of Athrun in her place, since she couldn't go with them this time. She didn't say "Here Meyrin, Athrun's yours. I don't want him; he's not mine anymore.." Cagalli did not want to leave Athrun (you can tell that she didn't want to by looking at her face), but she had no choice but to entrust Athrun to someone. Cagalli also had tears in her eyes after she told Meyrin that. If Cagalli was able to go with them, I'm sure she would be on the frontlines like she was in Seed, fighting alongside with Athrun.
Many of the scans from magazines, cards, etc also show AthrunxCagalli together (like a couple), no Meyrin and Athrun. For example, in one scan, a beach scene scan, it had three couples: KiraxLacus, ShinnxLunamaria and AthrunxCagalli. I think it was released after Destiny had ended. AthrunxCagalli are still together!
Whooaa..I am really happy to read your comment about this series ^^
@shinn24 : I couldn't find any better words beside Destiny is worse than seed hahahaha...so what you suggest? But I think I couldn't change the topic ne~?
Shinn was supposed to be the main hero but unfortunately he turned to be the antagonist one hehehhe but I honestly glad it happened that way ^^ I don't like Shinn with his childish behaviour, especially about "I AM ALWAYS RIGHT" thing =__=
About Shinn can beat Freedom thing.. I tought it was his Luck that time but I must admit that it can be happened because he and Rey had observed Freedom first also..Shinn manage to use Kira's weakness not to kill people hahhaha..
Battle in GSD seems a bit boring..to much re-scene -__- and that 'mini' Genesis was really un-inovatived to Gilbert (sorry, I couldn't find the right words)..Gilbert just re-used the same method with what Patrick Zala did -__- not creative hahahaha...
I like to see Kira being unbeatable in GSD well except the lost he receive from Shinn that time (Freedom was beated) but I am more interested if Kira has a rival again like he got from SEED (First he had to beat Athrun and then he had to fight with Rau)..both Rey and Shinn are nothing to Athrun and Kira =__= Even Minerva was beaten with Infinite Justice hahahhaha
Then..then...hm, where were Djibril in SEED? Logos was said as a 'mother' for Blue Cosmos..but we heard nothing about it in SEED and suddenly in GSD there was a scene about Mwu being take care by him after SEED was over..I am really confused hahahhaa...
Add more, like I said before...I didn't like the fact that Akatsuki was build long time ago by Uzumi for Cagalli which it was meant for Cagalli to use if ORB was under attack AGAIN/the second time..I wonder if Uzumi ever think what will happen if Azrael found Akatsuki in SEED wahahahha...It's his unfortunate not to find this georgeus MS hahahaa....I like more if Akatsuki was build by people/mechanics or whatever it name for Cagalli that time, may be another same scenario when Strike ROUGE was build back then in SEED....I love seeing Akatsuki ahahhaa..I love its shine hohohoho ^o^
Then again, as an AsuKaga Lover..I am really dissapointed because there's no Athrun and Cagalli scene at the end of GSD even in Special Edition hiks2...or even in Final Plus hiks2...I'd love to see Cagalli was there too hm, I thought if it better if after Kira and Lacus came until Shinn and Kira shake hands, then Cagalli come over too after meeting with emirs etc blah blah..I want Shin to apologize to Cagalli since she did nothing wrong to that lil boy! But I'm sure Cagalli will be the one who'd say 'sorry' to Shinn first for Uzumi..She's a gentle and kind heart person by the way ahahhah....May be a little chat then I want to see Athrun hugged Cagalli again huaaaa...I WANNA TO SEE ATHRUN AND CAGALLI CAN BE TOGETHER AGAIN! Fukuda-san~~! Onegai ne~~~~!
Don't break up my FAVOURITE COUPLE! Please create another male char for Meyrin, no Athrun for Meyrin as lover huaaaaaaaaaaa! *AsuKaga mode on*
Ok back to normal mode on hehehhe....now about the cloning thing...Rau said that Kira was the Last experiment then what about Rey? I wonder could be another clone in the next series or even in the movie?
Yeah, I am agree with Spyderz..Why Shinn who's piloted Gundam? Gilbert has wasted Yzak and Dearka skill nyahaahhaha....I wonder who will piloting Abyss, Gaia and Chaos if it's not stolen? In SEED we knew that 5 pilot of Blitz, Strike, Duel, Aegis and Buster was dead during the attack by ZAFT at Heliopolis right? Ok, I think I'll stop for now...I want to read another comment ne~
*AsuKaga mode on* Waaaaaa, I wanna see them together again and more scene about them both in movie and next series if there's gonna be the next series ^^ (dunno what I said...)
And WHY HIM/HER?
Awright..for me I choose Zhao Yun from Shu..Why? Becoz he's so COOL and LOYAL..He is so brave young man and HE IS SOOO HANDSOME!
I love he's not involve in any romantic relationship with anyone inside the story, so he can be MINE!
I love his outfit too ^^ also I love his voice actor..really match up with his character nyahahahha....
I love his fighting style ^^ He's not too big and he can run fast ^^
Then I chose my own female character nyahahhaa..coz I can make her as the way I wanted to haahahhaha...I always play Zhao Yun first after he showed up then I paired him with my own character named my own hahahhahaha...COOL!
I always looking for him in every DW series I played at first then after he's level and weapon are max, I choose to play another char which belong to Shu at first hahahah...
LOVE ZHAO YUN! Muach...
Who's next?
And WHY HIM/HER?
Awright..for me I choose Zhao Yun from Shu..Why? Becoz he's so COOL and LOYAL..He is so brave young man and HE IS SOOO HANDSOME!
I love he's not involve in any romantic relationship with anyone inside the story, so he can be MINE!
I love his outfit too ^^ also I love his voice actor..really match up with his character nyahahahha....
I love his fighting style ^^ He's not too big and he can run fast ^^
Then I chose my own female character nyahahhaa..coz I can make her as the way I wanted to haahahhaha...I always play Zhao Yun first after he showed up then I paired him with my own character named my own hahahhahaha...COOL!
I always looking for him in every DW series I played at first then after he's level and weapon are max, I choose to play another char which belong to Shu at first hahahah...
LOVE ZHAO YUN! Muach...
Who's next?
I want to see Athrun and Cagalli, to be together again..Cagalli piloted Akatsuki while Athrun piloted Infinite Justice and they fight on the same side hohohoho...New enemy with great strategy etc..Rival for Athrun and Kira..No more girls around Athrun please? I wanna see Dearka meet Miriallia again..I wanna see Yzak and Shiho too..I hope they have more scene especially Shiho then I want Yzak and Dearka have new gundams wahahahaha...
I hope if I see Shin again, he needs to be more mature than in GSD..
Fiuh, I want enemies who can fight Athrun, Kira, Yzak, Dearka and Shin equally.
Hm, I wanna see battle with strategies too..not only depending on their gundams power..
I really want to see my beloved Athrun and Cagalli involve in romantic scene ^^
My replies :
@Getay : I agree with ealpha-scorpio said why people actually love Kira and Athrun more than Shin.
For me, why I didn't like Shin because he's really arogant and egoist. He didn't try to think why Athrun betray ZAFT once again at that time. He didn't look at himself with what he did to ZAFT by releasing Stellar. I know he cared for her. I didn't like he had to yell, angry to anyone who didn't have the same idea with him. He yelled at Cagalli for become a good heart leader yet he release Stellar because his own feeling, he didn't feel sorry because what he did by releasing Stellar and that cost many people have to die when Stellar piloted Destroyer. He didn't hate himself for what he did before without thinking about that possibility since he released an enemy instead he hate Kira who's trying to stop Stellar. He didn't feel what happened to cities which attacked by Destroyer was because of HIS FAULT. He feel himself like a superhero yet he made so many mistake in battle. I prefer Setsuna from Gundam 00 to Shin, really! I don't like Shin since he always think that "I AM ALWAYS RIGHT". He's so easily to manipulate.
I hate seeing Shin so angry with Kira who wanted to stop Destroyer when he knew Stellar is the pilot. I think Shin is the type who can be called as a Berserker. It'a not Kira since Kira still has feeling to the enemy he killed. Kira cried for killing Nicol. Kira cried when he had to kill so many people unlike Shin. Once Shin got mad, he didn't think anything anymore, all he wanted is to win the fight. He didn't feel sorry for those he killed during the battle. He didn't grieve to people who lost their family because of Destoryer. I know it could be piloted by someone and not Stellar but the fact is Shin knew the pilot was Stellar and I think it'd better if there's scene that he felt sorry to people who being killed because Stellar. He loves her I know but too bad Shin didn't have feeling to give up someone important to save people. Athrun had to kill Kira in SEED, he didn't want to but he did take Kira down because Kira killed so many people back then in SEED. We can see he always thinking what he should do when he met Kira again in battlefield. When Kira's gundam went down, He didn't let Yzak to kill him, Athrun tried to capture Kira. At least in SEED we can see that both Athrun and Kira still have feeling of sorry to people they have killed during the battle. We couldn't see Shin like that in Destiny. All his doing was how to become a stronger person. He never think what Kira did to Stellar was because Stellar couldn't stop to attack since she saw Freedom. Shin blamed Kira who killed Stellar and try to get revenge. It's not the same case when Athrun tried to get revenge for Nicol's death. Stellar was attacking citizen who known as an original people when Kira beated her in GSD but if you guys watch SEED the case was not attacking unarmed people.
He even tried to kill Luna who tried to stop his fight with Athrun. That's a BERSERKER I think.
May be Fukuda tried to be more complex in Destiny but I think he failed. Too much hole in Destiny like I said in my comments earlier. I think it's better if Rey's rival was Neo since Neo said that he looked forward for their another battle but it never came up and also too many characters that Fukuda had wasted in Destiny unlike in SEED. Look what had happened to Vino, Youlant as Shin's friend and as the enginner? We knew what happened with Kuzzey back then at SEED. Lunamaria didn't show her grieve from her sister's death instead she's falling in love with Shin after that..too soon I think since she adored Athrun so much back then when Athrun was still a Minerva crew. Shin needs to be more mature in another series of SEED.
About Djibril things, well yeah I prefer Azrael to Djibril. He's such a coward who hides behind people.
Meer..hm, I think Fukuda need more phases if he wanted to make Destiny better than SEED. When Lacus finally showed herself in front of public what happen next? NOTHING as if people didn't care if the 'Lacus' in ZAFT side is FAKE! The story told us that people of ZAFT adored Lacus so much but they didn't feel anything when they knew their president even had lied to them all this time. Nothing happen to the world or even at PLANT about tha fact that someone has imposter their idol. I think PLANT and ZAFT people didn't love Lacus that much since they felt nothing to Meer. That was I get from what I saw that phase. People of ORB especially the military looked really really angry when they knew someone tried to imposter their leader..okay we can say they love Cagalli too right similar to people who love Lacus at PLANT and ZAFT. Look what happen to them? They attacked the person who they think tried to become the imposter of Cagalli, well they didn't know that she is the real Cagalli. I think that is something Fukuda missed. And the funny thing is..Shin was the hero at first but then he's turned become the antagonist since the main hero fall to Kira ^__^
I really love to watch GSD Special Edition since the main hero is not changing in the middle of story but still it didn't cover the holes in GSD since it's too much hahahahhhaa...
Fukuda-san, please make the movie better than SEED okay? Onegai~~
Well, that's my opinion tee hee~~
Can't wait to read another comment ne~ ^^
Cagalli can be with Athrun..all we've read at almost every fics and doujins saying that Cagalli can't be with Athrun because her duty..I don't agree with these stuffs..
They can be together if the director wants to! In fact Athrun is already with ORB after the GSD over..Meyrin can love Athrun as much as she want to..i just can't accept if Athrun falls for another girl so fast and beside he didn't tell a word to Cagalli..If he's really a gentleman, he must to talk with Cagalli first before he's move on especially if another girl come into his love life..nonsense if people saying 'There's nothing to talk anymore!' well, Athrun still need to talk to Cagalli first..He's such a coward if he just gone away with Meyrin like you guys said earlier..He and Kira as Cagalli's twin are bestfriend so Athrun had to find a way to speak to Cagalli ^__^even though she's very busy..
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@deathknelld : well, to me Athrun and Meyrin stood as friend at the ending of GSD..Look carefully, Athrun walked in front of Meyrin..He looked so troubled because his unfinished bussiness with his lover back then..He looked troubled because Cagalli release her ring..Meyrin had feeling for Athrun, yes I admit it, may be love..it can be happen since Athrun is so nice guy and has a nice look..At that scene Athrun didn't mind if Meyrin goes with Shinn and Luna since he never looked back to see if Mayrin walked behind him o not..He didn't care since his mind was not focus on Meyrin..His mind completely thinking about His Cagalli...But the fact is Meyrin decided to walk with Athrun..She has feeling for Athrun anyway..
Fukuda has the right to destroy the relationship between Athrun and Cagalli and I admit it'll make me sad, really! So I do hope he can create another man for Meyrin to feel the real love..Athrun wouldn't give Cagalli the ring if he's not in love with her..Athrun really loves Cagalli...He never looked at Meyrin or Meer or Luna or Lacus like He looked at Cagalli...Watch your GS and GSD once again hahahahhha if you do have time ^_^
You can see when he looked at Cagalli, he smiled, he laughed..the way he looked at her really special unlike with the others girls..I really thank you because Fukuda made those scene..it can be seen after Athrun decided to join Orb army in GS..He look sad but relieved at the same time after he rejoined Orb army again in GSD..I think both Athrun and Cagalli have to talk heart to heart to settle their problems..they current status..about their future etc..^^
I admit Athrun care about Meyrin's safety since she gave up everything to come with him to Orb..He didn't want Meyrin to feel sad since they'll have to fight againts ZAFT so he asked Meyrin to leave the AA..
Cagalli must find people like Uzumi had..People around Uzumi were really obeyed their leader..When Cagalli found them, Orb can become a great nation with great heart too..so Athrun can be with Cagalli..Even Athrun can become most high rank such as commander at military of ORB with his talent..Like what happen with our beloved Kira and Lacus..
That's what I really want to be happen...all we need is more time..I hope the movie can fulfill my dreams about my lovely couple ^^ like what happen with Cloud and Tifa in FFAC hahahahahaha...
Agree wif you Raidow hahaha...
Can't wait to see the movie, anyway when it'll release? T__T
hm, I don't hate meyrin too...YET! Hohohohooh...^^